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Author Topic: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?  (Read 973 times)

Offline danshao

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Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« on: November 06, 2015, 07:44:00 PM »
Hi all, I was recently told that keeping a strap on bowquiver on the bow may potentially break the bow. Maybe it tends to mess with the limbs because it is usually straped on fadeout area? I have no idea.

I have a bow quiver strapped onto my longbow and it seems fine but I haven't used it long enough to tell. Is it true that strap on quivers could potentially break your bow if you keep them on all the time when you shoot your bow?

Thanks I'm actually in the market for a new quiver and going back and forth between another bow quiver and a side quiver.

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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2015, 07:56:00 PM »
I have honestly never heard that. If its on the fades and doesnt move I dont see how it could break the bow. But I could see it maybe if possible break it if its on the working part of the limbs. Hopefully someone else with more knowledge on this will chime in.
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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2015, 08:23:00 PM »
Who told you that?

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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2015, 08:50:00 PM »
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Who told you that?

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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2015, 08:53:00 PM »
That is a bogus statement...

I would be very careful what else your source shares with you about archery in general, and take it with 2 grains of salt...... that is ridiculous...

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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2015, 08:57:00 PM »
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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2015, 09:01:00 PM »
I see. that's good to know. then bow quiver it is!!!

I'll change the subject title so as not to mislead others  :)

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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2015, 09:12:00 PM »
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Who told you that?

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Some guy over another forum, where someone's custom bow blew up and claimed it *could be* the bow quiver. I dont want to take any chances with my bows which is why i was asking.

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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2015, 09:44:00 PM »
I'm throwing in because I personally have seen discoloration under the glass of two bows I made years ago.Breaking the bow may be to harsh a word.  And yes they were at the fadeout area.  The quivers were Selway rubber slide on types.  The quivers were left on for a long time.  It is understandable how longtime compression on a bow limb could cause permanent damage to the materials. Especially when heat is a factor in limb integrity.  These bows we shoot are only fiberglass and wood. I've been making bows for twenty five years and know the fragility of these limbs. I do not believe the strap on types would cause as much
pressure as the rubber slide on's............Ray
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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2015, 02:16:00 AM »
So now I can blame my side quiver for my bad hip and knees.
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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2015, 04:52:00 AM »
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I'm throwing in because I personally have seen discoloration under the glass of two bows I made years ago.Breaking the bow may be to harsh a word.  And yes they were at the fadeout area.  The quivers were Selway rubber slide on types.  The quivers were left on for a long time.  It is understandable how longtime compression on a bow limb could cause permanent damage to the materials. Especially when heat is a factor in limb integrity.  These bows we shoot are only fiberglass and wood. I've been making bows for twenty five years and know the fragility of these limbs. I do not believe the strap on types would cause as much
pressure as the rubber slide on's............Ray
Yep. Nor a fan of the Selway type quiver because of the rubber attachments. It can change the way your limbs flex. If I were to go back to a bow quiver on a longbow,  it would be a Great Northern strap on.
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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2015, 05:02:00 AM »
We make a strap on quiver as well. But I can guarantee you that any one of our quivers no matter how long left on the bow, will not cause a limb to break. Buy and shoot with confidence no matter which quiver you decide to purchase.
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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2015, 07:51:00 AM »
Dont get me wrong.  Im talking about pressures the quiver puts on the limbs when left on for YEARS.  I have a few of those qivers and I still use and like them.  My daughter has one on her bow now.  So I guess I should have just stated one sentence.  "Don't tie, strap or clamp anything to your bow for long periods of time.".............Ray
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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2015, 08:36:00 AM »
I used a back quiver and now I have back problems. That may be related also.

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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2015, 08:47:00 AM »
Okay, I guess I'll take exception to those who say strap-on quivers won't damage a bow or that they have to be left on for years to do damage.

When I first got my Kanati, I used a bow quiver with the rubber straps that lock over a small peg to tighten. I had it on for ONE season. When I took it off, I noticed a white area where the straps had been on both top and bottom limbs. It looked like this on both limbs:

 

I was afraid I had ruined my bow. I checked with Jason, but he thought it was probably cosmetic. Nonetheless, I stopped using that quiver and used either a back quiver or a four arrow EFA quiver with a totem and the original velcro fasteners. The EFA doesn't get tight enough to put pressure on the limb and the totem makes it unnecessary to over tighten the straps.

I shot the bow for another seven years, occasionally using the EFA but mostly carrying a bare bow and back quiver. This summer I thought the white area on the top limb was a bit more noticeable, but since I hadn't shot the bow for months due to an elbow injury, I thought it was just my imagination. Unfortunately, it wasn't.

I was lucky in that I wasn't shooting the bow when this happened. I was pulling arrows, and it was hanging across the back of my Ranger...no quiver just the bow, even weight on each limb...just like a bow rack. I went into the house and answered nature's call. When I returned and picked up my bow, I saw this.

 

 

Let me tell you, I wanted to throw up! Did the bow quiver cause the damage? I'll let you be the judge, but before the bow let go, the upper limb had looked identical to the picture of the bottom limb for years. I just know I don't use that type of bow quiver anymore. I use either the EFA or a Big Jim's quiver. Neither of these has to be very tight to work.

Did I over tighten the first strap-on quiver? Probably, since it wouldn't stay put very well otherwise. So, I don't think you can condemn all bow quivers, even the type I had, but I do think you need to use them with great care and NEVER over tighten one...even for a little while.
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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2015, 08:51:00 AM »
To be extreme, I suppose that you could make a case for back quivers causing back pain, or pocket quivers users requiring hip replacements. In all honesty I have heard of a very limited number of people who supposedly had some discoloration at the fadeout. When I spoke with several suppliers of the rubber that we use, I was told that there was no possibility of a chemical problem, but that there could be the possibility of carbon black rubbing off onto the bow. We immediately went to a more expensive rubber that was guaranteed not to rub off. I personally keep quivers on 3-5 bows and have never had any problem with any kind of discoloration or breakage. I even experimented with putting the quiver two inches out from the fadeout with no negative results. Of course the quiver was one of ours (EFA) and was not as heavy as most.

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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2015, 09:13:00 AM »
I don't usually use a bow quiver but when I do I use an EFA...
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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2015, 09:31:00 AM »
I certainly do not want to incite any negativity here. I believe if sitting around a campfire and discussing all things trad-bowhunting this might be worthy of passing along.

I used a bow quiver on one of my takedowns. I left it on my bow for a few days while shooting to tune with the quiver attached. When I removed the quiver I saw this.

top limb belly

   

bottom limb belly

   

I attribute this to how stiff the strap was and the lack of enough adjustment holes (it has two and it was adjusted to the maximum length), unlike on the Great Northern whose straps have numerous holes for differing limb widths and thicknesses, and unlike Velcro adjustment straps.

The bow is a Lost Creek takedown with what I would say are normal width/thickness limbs. Chad builds a fantastic bow and the finish is durable, but was no match for the mounting rods of this quiver and strap combo.

I'm not throwing bricks, just passing along an observation. Pressure at the strap location can be very intense, based on design.

If you use a bow quiver, a test fit might be best, if possible, before buying. I like the quiver that caused these indentations on the bow limbs, but use it on smaller limbed bows now. It is a fine quiver. It's just not made for all bows with the strap system used.
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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2015, 10:11:00 AM »
The problem is speaking in absolutes.  It is generally not a good idea.  Obviously, saying the quiver can never be an issue is incorrect.  To say, "it's rare." Is more correct.  I look at the pics of the Kanati and wonder if it could have been multifactoral. Was there an issue with the finish on that particular bow?  Did moisture collect under the straps and cause the problem?  Who knows.  Bottom line is, it appears the quiver played a part here.
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Re: Strap-On Bow Quiver don't really make bows blow up, or ...?
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2015, 10:49:00 AM »
Been a great northern strap on quiver on every bow I own for over 20 years. These quivers are on each bow all year long (basically each bow has a gn quiver put on the day it arrives and quiver only comes off for travel to out of state hunts). Never had or ever expect a problem.

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