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Author Topic: out of string material and new Predator recurve on the way  (Read 212 times)

Offline Tedd

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out of string material and new Predator recurve on the way
« on: December 02, 2015, 10:24:00 PM »
I'm about out of my spools of 452X and need to get 3 new spools of string. Also I have a new  62" Predator recurve on the way. Anyone have a string recipe the works great for the Predators? I can't recall the last time I used a string that I didn't make myself. So I plan to make a new one for the Predator.  Just wondering what the favorite string material these days for quiet and stability? The 452x was pretty darn good. Is Fury better? How many strands?
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Re: out of string material and new Predator recurve on the way
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2015, 10:41:00 PM »
BCY-X is the next generation after 452X.  8190F is the best 100% Dyneema material on the market.

I have some 452X, and can get some 8190F pretty quick, and can sell it at a bargain if you are interested.

I like 18-20 strands of either one.  Makes a string that isn't too fat, but you won't have to pad out the serving to get a decent nock fit.

BCY-X is 17% Vectran, 83% DK90 Dyneema (vs. 452X being 33% Vectran, 67% SK75 Dyneema).

What it boils down to is any 100% Dyneema material is going to be more susceptible to stretch/creep, especially in higher temps and/or with lower strand counts.  Of course there are lots of other variables to consider--draw weight, draw length, string length, actual temps, etc.

Materials with Vectran are more stable, especially in higher temps.  They seem to be a little quieter on most bows also.

Chad

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Re: out of string material and new Predator recurve on the way
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2015, 10:55:00 PM »
Thanks LBR, Thats good info.
So what is your string of choice?

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Re: out of string material and new Predator recurve on the way
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2015, 11:43:00 PM »
BCY-X is my favorite.

I started tinkering with it shortly after it came out and I love it.  Bought a Samick Journey just to test it with (didn't want the bow to be a factor).  The difference the string made (from a 16 strand Dacron) was nothing short of amazing.  Even on this very cheap bow it's quiet, durable, stable, and consistent.  I liked it so much that I took it to FL on a bowfishing trip (got my biggest stingray to date--around 80#), I used it opening day of archery season here (got a big doe), and I used it at the KY Tradfest in '14 to win the long shot novelty.  Guys like Denny Sturgis Jr. and Rod Jenkins like it too.

If you liked 452X, I think you will like it.  It's the next in line.  Started with 450 Premium, then 450+, then 452X, and now BCY-X.  As better raw materials become available, better bowstring becomes available.

8190F and Fury are supposed to be the same thing--SK90 Dyneema.  8190F has more colors and is cheaper.  

Saw a guy somewhere else saying the rate of twist is different and that it made a big difference in the material.  According to DSM (the manufacturer of Dyneema), BCY, and a couple of big name compound companies who all experimented with the rate of twist from very little to a whole bunch, that claim is not founded in fact.  Practically no difference in performance between almost no twist and a whole bunch of twist.  No idea why someone would think twisting would change the properties of the material.

8190F has gotten a good foothold in the market, even though it's only been out for a short time (released in late July).  It's going to be a tiny bit faster (same diameter string) than BCY-X because it has no Vectran, and Vectran is heavier than Dyneema.  I don't think it will be enough to notice on our bows, sinc X only has 17% Vectran.  Probably no more than a couple of fps on a wheel bow.

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